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1. on July 31, 2010 at 5:49 am | Reply CEXCARVEMUM

   hiya

   just signed up and wanted to say hello while I read through the posts

   hopefully this is just what im looking for looks like i have a lot to read.

   
   
2. on August 1, 2010 at 7:42 pm | Reply Pat Richards

   Hi, Cex! Welcome!

   
   
3. on December 9, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Reply Kelsey Armes

   Hi my name is Kelsey Armes, and i am having a baby. I am having my baby the natural way, and i am not getting an abortion. I have never believed in abortions, and i never will. Me and my fiance Devin Armes are happy about having this baby together. Neither one of us want or believe in abortion. Killing an unborn human being is the worste thing you could ever do!! killing an unborn child, is just like saying that your going to kill yourself!! Abortion is evil, crual, unhealthy, nasty, stupid, murder, and it’s just like asking for a death wish!! Having an abortion can be very dangerous if it is not done the right way. If you are thinking (anybody) about getting an abortion, think twice before you do it!! If you do it then that means that you are a selfish, cold hearted, child murdering, brainless idiot, poor characterized, thoughtless person!!! Abortions are wrong!! And whoever gets one should have a death penalty!!! Abortion is like murder, so DON’T DO IT PLEASE!!!

   
   
   • on December 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm | Reply Pat Richards

     Kelsey, congratulations on having a new baby! I have two children, they are a blessing and, yes, a chore at time. I congratulate you also on being able to have a baby at this time. I say that because there are about one million women every year who believe for personal reasons that they cannot bring a baby into the world.

     But I guess you know better than all of those women. Because you are bringing a baby into the world and these other women are not, then that makes them “idiots” in your articulate words. Well, la-de-da.

     Lemme enlighten you: women know that abortion is a form of killing. They know exactly what they are doing, honey. And, for whatever the reason, they still do it. They are not happy about it, but…

     But I guess that by your calling them names, using words like “murder”, using lots of exclamation points, you think you’re gonna convince them to not have a baby. How silly.

     P.S. – I wonder what you would have done if your doctor told you that the child you are carrying has two heads or it’s heart is growing out of its body and it will die when it is born.

     You are a silly, pompous woman. Worse, you’re just plain ole mean…

     
     
   • on December 11, 2010 at 7:21 pm | Reply Stephanie

     Perhaps you should consult a dictionary before you start using big words such as “worste,” “crual,” or phrases such as “me and my fiance’.” I have a sneaking suspicion that having a baby the “natural way,” (as you have so eloquently phrased) most likely means bringing another welfare baby into the world. Please make your child’s education top priority, as it is painfully evident that this is an area where your parents failed you. Good luck.

     
     
     • on December 12, 2010 at 4:46 pm | Reply Pat Richards

       A little harsh, Stephanie but pretty funny – and sad cause you’re probably right….And so the world turns…

       
       
   • on November 15, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Reply mrs.matthews

     i totally agree with u i also i agree that if a women doesnt want to have a baby then use birth control thats what they r for i dont believe n killing gods miracles (little angels) …………………….. ! congrats on ur bundle of joy i just had mine 6 months ago n wont change it for the world.

     
     
4. on December 9, 2010 at 3:57 pm | Reply Leah

   Kelsey,
   Is abortion ever OK?

   
   
5. on January 14, 2011 at 9:26 pm | Reply Lakisha

   i think that the decision to have an abortion is up to the parents,you know that birth control isnt 100% percent effective sometimes you can think that your safe buy using birth control and still end up pregnant, so no i dont think that an abortion is the best alternative but there are certain situations that may require to have one jut thnk about it for a minute,especially if your gonna go around calling people murderers

   
   
6. on January 24, 2011 at 8:17 pm | Reply DJ Parsons

   Pat,
   I apologize if I am using the wrong textbox, but hope this is OK to use for question from another woman who supports women in need of encouragement…Would it be possible for you to get to know me at my website abortionmisnomers.com? I know you are busy however, I too fight for a woman’s Right to Choose and am in hopes my site can be beneficial to your visitors and am trying to get the word out any way I can, perhaps an external link from yours under “Before You Decide” or even just a “suggested link.” I think you will find my site interesting, loving and non-condemning and will be able to see the data I am trying to accumulate as being important to women. Please do not hesitate to e-mail me with any comments, ideas, questions or concerns. Thank you for your work for women. — DJ Parsons

   
   
   • on January 25, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Reply Pat Richards

     DJ – lemme check this out. I am always anxious to spread the word through as many mediums as possible. Give me a few days…..

     
     
   • on January 25, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Reply Pat Richards

     DJ: I looked at your site and, honestly, I am a little confused as to where you are coming from (not that I’m the expert but a good indication that you might want to be clearer on your home page). E.G. – on your link entitled “Abortion Counseling”, you direct people to Carenet, which is a pro-life group. What’s up with that?

     
     
7. on January 24, 2011 at 10:52 pm | Reply heather

   i belive in abortions ecspecially since i done every thing possible to preventing pregnancies i have six kids im only 22 i tried every pill patch iud copper ts anything you can think of so before you talk any crap you need to go through what some women has went though then you would understand

   
   
   • on January 25, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Reply Pat Richards

     Heather – that is amazing that you already have six children at such a young age. And it’s also amazing that all of that birth control has never worked. If you want to talk to someone at a reproductive health clinic about your “problem”, tell me what part of the country you live in and we can refer you to someone….

     Meanwhile, thank for chiming in….

     
     
8. on February 21, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Reply kimberly

   okk let me say some things. abortion is out of the question look if your not ready for a kid then obviously your not ready for sex! abortion i know that its a girls decision but come onn why kill an innocent baby! have the baby and like put it up for adoption do something other then killing because your killing it and that is not right what so ever! so yea like think twice before you do something you will probably regret in the future and think about all that stuff that can happen to you and how it would change your life God gave everybody a life so dont give up a life just because you dont want the baby and you dont want to take responsibility for your own actions!!

   
   
9. on February 22, 2011 at 3:41 pm | Reply Pat Richards

   Thanks for your comments, Kimberly. I wish they weren’t so harsh, but I do respect your right to opine. The thing that bothers me is how some people like yourself think that carrying a child for 9 months then handing it over to another couple is such an easy thing. You say women will regret their abortion. Dont you think they might regret giving their child away, especially on their birthdays? Have you either put up a child for adoption or adopted one yourself? I think I know the answer….

   
   
   • on February 22, 2011 at 4:03 pm | Reply Anonymous

     your welcome, im not being harsh im just being honest. well i think that giving your child away to someone else is better then killing it. the baby actually has something in life you know like you would want to let it grow and live life like you did there is no such thing as killing the poor kid just beause you dont want it. yeah personally to me its a girls decision but i wouldnt do it and i dont think other girls should do it either. like you said “dont you think they might regret giving their child away, especially on thier birthdays”? okk well let me ask you this isn’t it better for them to have a birthday then not to have one at all? and i would rather see my baby and give it up for adoption then to not to see my baby at all

     
     
   • on May 20, 2011 at 5:36 am | Reply deanna

     “You say women will regret their abortion. Dont you think they might regret giving their child away, especially on their birthdays? Have you either put up a child for adoption or adopted one yourself? I think I know the answer….”

     I am the mother of 4 adopted children and I can say for a fact that Kimberly is correct. Adoption is the humane thing to do. Pat, you said that they might regret giving their child away. I am sure if they would regret “giving it away” that they are going to regret killing it. Also, a mother who places her child in the arms of loving adoptive parents is doing the most selfless act a person can do. I am wondering why someone that is supposed to be “for women” would be so against adoption to belittle it.

     I don’t know you obviously but as I read these posts and other pieces you have written one thing stands out to me. You seem to be particularly mean to people who comment and do not agree with you, especially ones that sound young. Why is that. Are you trying to intimidate them and put them in their place?

     Every thing that I have ever seen you write about abortion has been full of half truths, downright lies and just plain nastiness. I have been working in the area of advocating for life and adoption instead of abortion for many years and I know the truth on these issues. If you really care about women then why do you lie to them so much? Do you make money off of abortions? Is that it? Get kickbacks from the referrals? I am just having a hard time understanding why you do these things if you sincerely care about women.

     I don’t expect you to become an advocate for life but what I would like to see is you talk to these young girls and mothers who come on this page with respect and stop talking down to them as if they are too dumb to realize what you are doing. I have never seen such a display of rudeness in my life.

     
     
     • on May 20, 2011 at 11:00 am | Reply Pat Richards

       Deanna: Thanks for chiming in, I”m not sure where to start but I wonder if you can tell me where I was “mean” to someone? If you read my blogs on http://www.abortion.ws you will see that I’m pretty objective, that I certainly do not favor abortion over adoption but I question a lot of things coming from BOTH sides of the issue. I just dont know when I have been mean to someone. Please give me the quote. When did I “talk down” to someone?

       Thanks. Pat

       
       
10. on February 24, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Reply kimberly

    your welcome, im not being harsh im just being honest. well i think that giving your child away to someone else is better then killing it. the baby actually has something in life you know like you would want to let it grow and live life like you did there is no such thing as killing the poor kid just beause you dont want it. yeah personally to me its a girls decision but i wouldnt do it and i dont think other girls should do it either. like you said “dont you think they might regret giving their child away, especially on thier birthdays”? okk well let me ask you this isn’t it better for them to have a birthday then not to have one at all? and i would rather see my baby and give it up for adoption then to not to see my baby at all

    
    
    • on February 24, 2011 at 10:12 pm | Reply Pat Richards

      Thanks, Kimberly. At one point you said you thought it is “the girl’s decision” which actually means you are pro-choice if i read your correctly. I worked for abortion doctors for many years, held the hands of thousands of women who were about to have an abortion. They didn’t want to be there, they were sad, mad, you name it. And they knew exactly what they were doing – they knew they were “killing their baby”. But they felt is was the only choice they had. Over one million women a year go through the same difficult decision and they have over one million different reasons.

      On the other hand, if the doctors were not there for them, many, many of those women would find an illegal doctor or perform the abortion themselves. It’s a terrible position to be in and I – like the women – recognize the humanity of the fetus. I just dont believe that any of us can just sit at our computers and decide for them. I trust women….

      
      
11. on February 25, 2011 at 3:46 pm | Reply kimberly

    ok well thats not the only choice they have unless they are about to die and they have to take the baby out other then that if they just dont want the baby its kind of uncalled for. i know that there is a lot of women who go through a lot of emotional and stressful times but i mean why would they do something crucial like that if there going to feel like that in the future mad sad and regret what they did?! yeah if i new the consequences about doing an abortion i mean i wouldnt do it and i dont think other women who actually sit down and think about it would either. yeah like i said its a womens choice if they want to or not but i wouldnt recommend it because of all the problems they are going to be facing in the future you know? yes i know that there is a lot of women who go to an illegal doctor but why? thats more dangerous and themselves? dang thats just not right because of the harshful problems they are going to have when they do. im not just sitting here and deciding for them because they dont know me and i know they are not going to listen to what i have to say i hope they understand me though and listen to thier hearts and not just do it just to do it. i believe in us too and i know we are strong and we can make the best oout of anything things especially hard things like an abortion. if they plan on having an abortion they should think about the risks and how would they feel without the child they were going to have. Im against it but i can not choose for them…

    
    
    • on February 25, 2011 at 9:08 pm | Reply Virginia L

      Kimberly,
      is abortion ever OK?

      
      
    • on February 26, 2011 at 3:02 pm | Reply Pat Richards

      The problem with what you are saying, Kimberly, is that not all women ultimately regret their abortions. Sure, some do. We all do things that we ultimately regret. But many, many women, including several I know personally, have not regretted their decision.

      What we can do, however, is insist that all abortion clinics offer good counseling to ensure, as much as they can, that the woman is very sure about her decision. Unfortunately, there are some bad clinics out there that do hardly any counseling and I suspect a lot of the women who come to regret their decision probably went to those clinics…

      
      
      • on April 10, 2011 at 10:00 am | Reply Chelsi

        5guIn4 Very true! Makes a change to see someone spell it out like that.

        
        
    • on February 26, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Reply Glenda

      Kimberly,
      I’ll ask again,
      Is abortion ever OK?

      
      
    • on May 20, 2011 at 7:05 am | Reply deanna

      Kimberely, did you know that all of those statistics about thousands of women dying from illegal abortion are not even true. They were made up statistics. Her is a quote from a former abortionist who did thousands of abortions and started NARAL (The National Abortion rights Action league) but then he felt like he was killing so he stopped and turned pro-life. This is what he said about those statistics.
      Dr. Bernard Nathanson, co-founder of the National Abortion Rights Action League, admits his group lied about the number of women who died from illegal abortions when testifying before the Supreme Court in 1972. “We spoke of 5,000 – 10,000 deaths a year…. I confess that I knew the figures were totally false … it was a useful figure, widely accepted, so why go out of our way to correct it with honest statistics?” He went on to say that “By the year before the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision allowing legal abortion on demand in all fifty states, the death rate for illegal abortions had fallen to 24 in 1972 (with 25 additional deaths as a result of legal abortions).

      So, it isn’t even true. There are actually a lot of women who die form legal abortions because the number of them has increased so much.

      You are doing a good job standing up for the rights of the babies to live. Keep up the good work girl!

      
      
      • on May 20, 2011 at 11:03 am | Reply Pat Richards

        You are right, Deanna, the late Dr Nathanson did say that so does that make it true? There are so many other sources showing how women died or were maimed. Do you really want women going to back alley abortionists again?

        I guess the difference here is that I trust women to make the right decision – whatever it is. But you dont trust them and are trying to steer them in one direction.

        Meanwhile, however, I do appreciate the fact that you’ve adopted several children. So many pro-lifers often talk about how easy it is to adopt but never do it themselves.

        
        
        • on May 20, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Reply deanna

          Pat, I personally, in my tiny sphere know about 15 families, who have collectively adopted about 50 children. All of these families are pro-life. If you do an internet search you will find adoption agency after adoption agency that are for the most part Christian pro-life organizations who are placing thousands of babies in loving homes each year. One agency that I personally know of, The Zoe Foundation does it and expresses the fact that they do it specifically because they are pro-life. I’m sure there are more but this one I personally know. There is also agency after agency who feed, clothe, house, give medical attention to orphans waiting for homes. This is part of my reply to an abortion doctor who claimed that pro-liferes do no take care of the children. “Most pro-life Christians go to churches that have programs, some of them massive para church organizations, that feed, clothe and house needy children. These pro-lifers financially support these programs through their churches. So, they do take care of the children. Programs such as Feed the Children, The 700 club, James Robinson, Warm Blankets International, Rainbow Kids, etc. (I could go on and on for pages listing them) are all Christian based, and they are doing EXACTLY what the author said that we do not do. Many, if not most adoption agencies are Christian based, and they are placing children from all over the world into loving adoptive homes. I have personally adopted 4 children, one special needs child with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, another special needs child with parental mental health issues, and one teen. I have supported Orphan relief efforts as well as inner city efforts. I am a certified foster parent. There are many many more who do much more than I do, some giving up lucrative careers to help these children. Furthermore, we start unwed mothers homes and crisis pregnancy centers that furnish baby furniture, car seats, maternity clothes, infant clothes and any other supplies needed in order to help with practical needs. We have food programs, housing programs and medical programs. I would like to ask the author where she gets her information that we do not try to take care of these children? ”

          Also, what I am doing is presenting the other side of choice. You guys(pro-choice) seem to have tunnel vision. You talk choice but you seem to only think about the choice of abortion. I am simply presenting the second half of that choice which is the choice to give life and then parent or place for adoption and pointing out the fact that if they do want to parent we will help them.

          Also, I am not steering them in any one direction any more than you are by having a website called “Abortion” and giving them numbers to abortion clinics. I am presenting the second half of choice. That is all.

          
          
          • on May 20, 2011 at 2:45 pm deanna

            Also Pat, there are several other studies that show those illegal abortion statistics as being accurate. Here is the link with bibliography at the end for documented proof.

            http://www.hli.org/index.php/abortion/326?task=view

            It always amazes me that when doctors are on the abortion side they are held in high esteem by pro-choicers, especially ones like Dr. Nathanson who was head of NARAL but then when they see(as in admit it to themselves that it is valuable) that they are taking human lives and they quit because they can’t take it anymore they all of a sudden become liars to the very people that just esteemed them highly. I wonder, If Dr. Curtis Boyd or Dr, Warren Hern, or Carhart were to switch “sides” and become pro-life would they immediately be discredited?

            
            
12. on March 2, 2011 at 4:26 am | Reply Glenda

    I guess Kimberly does not like to answer questions.

    
    
    • on March 6, 2011 at 6:40 pm | Reply Pat Richards

      Glenda: I think some folks just come on the site, throw out a quick comment then disappear. Most of these folks are not interested in a dialogue. But, if you are interested, let me ask you when you think abortion is “okay?”

      
      
      • on March 6, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Reply Glenda

        How could I possibly make a comprehensive list of when Abortion is OK?

        
        
    • on July 6, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Reply Deana

      Perhaps she has realized that it’s impossible for someone who believes it’s OK to kill unborn children to understand the consequences, not only of the suffering they will experience for their entire lives, but the suffering they will endure when they meet God unless they have given their lives to God & have asked for His forgiveness. Murder is murder, no matter if the person is born or unborn.
      God is the only answer to stop to stop this cruel practice.

      
      
13. on March 14, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Reply Britney Graham

    I REALLY DONT BELIEVE IN ABORTIONS. BUT I’M NEEDING ONE I GOT TWO KIDS LIVING IN A SHETER. DONT HAVE A JOB,CAR,HOME. AND THAN I WONT FEEL RIGHT GIVING MY BABY AWAY KNOWING I’M OUT THERE WITH TWO OTHER KIDS AND NOT THAT ONE. THAT MAKE ME FEEL BAD KNOWING I GOT A CHILD OUT THERE AND WONDING IS THE BABY FINE. I DONT WONT THAT WORRY AND STRESS.SO GETTING A ABORTION IS BAD BUT ALSO STRESS FREE.KNOWING THE BABY IS IN A BETTER PLACE.PLEASE HELP ME. THANKS

    
    
    • on March 14, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Reply Pat Richards

      Britney:

      If you would like to locate a clinic that performs abortions, you can go to http://www.abortion.com and find your city. You will see a listing of reputable clinics in the area. Or, if you’d like me to recommend a clinic or two, tell me what city you are in and we can help. These clinics will counsel you on your decision.

      Good luck with your decision. I know it’s no easy.

      
      
    • on May 20, 2011 at 5:45 am | Reply deanna

      Britney,you said that you won’t feel right “giving your baby away”. But you would feel right killing it? Think about that for a very long time because abortion is permanent. You can go to your local crisis pregnancy center and they will you with practical needs or call 800-395-4357. There are people who can help you with housing, food, medical care,and most anything else you will need so that you can parent your baby if you want to and if you decide that you can’t parent it then they will do those same things for you and help you place it into a loving home. I have adopted four myself so I know how it works. You may contact me on my blog at http://www.shoutingitloud.com for more information.

      
      
14. on March 15, 2011 at 4:00 pm | Reply Britney Graham

    THANK YOU MS.RICHARDS YOUR RIGHT ITS NOT EASY.I LIVE IN LAKE CITY FLORDIA.THANKS AGAIN FOR YOU TIME.

    
    
    • on May 20, 2011 at 6:10 am | Reply deanna

      Britney, if you want help so that you can keep your baby or of you want to talk about options that will allow your baby to live contact me at shouting it loud (dot) com. You will have to put the www in the front and then squish the words up and put a period where I put the (dot). But if you go there you will find links to a bunch of things that can help you. There are people that will help you with housing, food, clothing, etc.

      
      
      • on May 20, 2011 at 11:05 am | Reply Pat Richards

        That’s so encouraging that all of these people are out there ready to help Kimberly! How does that work exactly? Will those folks just keep sending her money for her housing for years and years, pay for the food, buy the child’s clothing all the way through high school, pay for her college? That is so wonderful!!!

        
        
        • on May 20, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Reply deanna

          No Pat but what we will do is help her until she can get on her feet and provide for herself. It is about equipping her to take care of herself and her baby if she chooses to parent.

          
          
15. on March 15, 2011 at 5:59 pm | Reply Pat Richards

    Britney:

    Go to http://www.abortion.com. In the top right corner are boxes that say “city”. Go there and scroll down to “Jacksonville’ or “Gainesville”. You will see two clinics listed in those cities. They are the All Women’s Health Centers. They are wonderful clinics with very helpful staff.

    If you need any more advice, have any questions please let me know. Thanks Pat

    
    
16. on May 20, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Reply deanna

    I do have to tell you Pat, I appreciate you not deleting my comments or refusing to post them in the first place. I think it only fair that if women are to be given a choice that they know what both choices really are. So many women think that abortion is her “only” choice. I am sure that you heard that repeatedly when you worked at the clinic. And most, I”m sure do not realize that help is available if they decide to parent. It is imperative that women have this information. Choicer’s say that they want to reduce the number of abortions. If this is true then they need let the women know that help is out there for them if they want to make the “other” choice. How awesome and incredibly fair to the women it would be if you had those options on your abortion website so they truly had all of their choices there for them to really choose. But again, thank you for not deleting my comments. I am only trying to help these women. I have lost children myself so I know first hand what it feels like.

    
    
17. on June 29, 2011 at 3:40 am | Reply mel

    Abortion is MURDER. People in life should think about what the consequences to their actions may be before taking on a sex life. Instead of taking the life of an innocent child. People need to quit worrying about how they will be seen by society, whats going to happen to them, etc. Quit being selfish and know that there are people who are out there whom cannot have children, it would make their world if they could adopt a child, instead there are people killing the children that they would love to have

    
    
18. on July 1, 2011 at 6:32 pm | Reply Pat Richards

    Then how come there are so many children still waiting to be adopted? Tell me, Mel, how many children have you adopted? I mean, it’s so easy to do and, as you suggest, there are so many people waiting on line to adopt a little black crack baby, right?

    
    
19. on July 8, 2011 at 5:34 am | Reply Anonymous

    It blows my mind how many people think it is ok to pass judgement about a woman’s personal decision. Abortion is NOT a form of birth-control but it is an option that we have a right to. This is a horrible experience for women (like myself) to go through. I found this forum searching for information and support while I make my decisions. How dare people change it into an issue with their religion. No one asked you to abort and possibly not everyone is a follower of your God…

    
    
20. on July 8, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Reply Pat Richards

    Would you mind, anonymous, telling us why the experience was “horrible?” Most studies show people felt “relief” afterwards and it always concerns me when I hear a reaction like yours.

    
    
21. on October 16, 2011 at 7:47 pm | Reply Anonymous

    well i am doing an abortion project and i must say that after doing some research i have never been more confused in my life…personally i would say that i am against abortions for the most part but the mother is the only one that can make the decision for herself. All you can do is inform them well and hope she makes the best decision. Yes, it is murder, your killing something innocent and living, but it’s up to the mother to deal with that.
    as far as religion, i think that should stay out of it because religion is not part of everyones life.
    WAFFLES OUT.

    
    
22. on October 16, 2011 at 10:00 pm | Reply Pat Richards

    Anonymous, it is a very difficult decision and until someone is in that woman’s shoes, it’s hard to say what you would do. I used to work in the abortion field and I can’t tell you how many people came in for abortions who said they were pro-life and they thought it was murder. That’s why I believe that elected officials cannot make the decision for women. Women are smart (smarter than men!), so I elect to trust them. Thanks for commenting!

    
    
23. on January 31, 2012 at 3:49 pm | Reply Pat Richards

    Did you know that 43% of the women in this country will have one abortion in their lifetime? And, yet, it remains the most stigmatized medical procedure in the country.

    
    

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